Our show will deviate from it's schedule to take get our guest, intellectual property attorney Aimee Bissonette.

Intro: (1min) [Durff talks] Welcome to It's Elementary Show #10 Copyright: It's the Law. with our guest: Aimee Bissonette. We are streaming live on the EdTechTalk Channel of the Worldbridges network. This is Lisa Durff, a K12 teacher in Maryland, AND Jose Rodriguez, third grade teacher in Los Angeles CA, AND Alice Mercer, a Elementary computer lab teacher in Sacramento, CA, AND Maria Knee a Kindergarten teacher from Deerfield, NH. Today is Monday, November 12th 2007.


  1. Aimee's background and credentials: Aimee has more than twenty years' experience as a lawyer, writer, and teacher (higher ed). Her legal practice focuses on copyright and trademark law, as well as rights licensing issues. She currently is working on a book for Corwin Press for teachers, media specialists, and school administrators on the legal issues associated with technology in K-12 classrooms.
  2. The format for the show: a case study to inform teachers about copyright and how it affects multimedia projects that you post on the web
  3. The case study scenario

The Case Study

Students read a story in class about a man looking back on listening to his grandmother's recordings of music from Puerto Rico, and how they went to a show that one of her favorite bands played. One of the band members is a relative (nephew?) of the grandmother. There was a lesson suggested by the text to have students act out a radio show where someone is making a song request. My students created a podcast that had many of the show characters doing this (which was not in the original story plot). I posted the podcast on my class website. Since that time, the file sharing service I used has gone down, so the link is currently broken. Before reposting, I checked in with the publisher to get guidance on whether they viewed this creation as violating copyright. As I recall, they may not have the original copyright on the story, they may have licensed it from a piece that had already been published.

After a discussion by phone and email with the publisher, a representative was very cordial, but indicated that by publishing it online on the web, it could be a violation based on being derivative, but advised that I get legal advice, and pointed me to some great resources. Since I'd like to do lessons like this in the future, and to show teachers how to do lessons like this, I'd love some general guidelines about how to do this, and I think it could be informative for others.

Jose: When I look at copyright my first thought is on publishing on my classroom blog. Can I use certain images, Text, or audio found in the curriculum I teach? If our audience is the world what's OK to use? What is Fair Use for teachers?

We here a lot about Creative Commons I am thinking of a) content my class creates, b) content derived from publishers (Open Court, Into Engish, Thinking Maps) What does it allow an educator to do and use in his or her classroom?

Analysis of derivative use vs. fair use

Aimee talks....

Review and wrap up

[Alice talks] Summary of what was discussed
Outtro by Maria [Outtro] This has been It's Elementary. Show # 10. for November 12th., 2007. Thank you for coming. Thanks Jeff Lebow and Dave Cormier and all the edtechtalk community for your support. This has been Maria Knee, Jose Rodriguez, Alice Mercer, and Lisa Durff webcasting live on the edtechtalk channel of the worldbridges network discussing Copyright: It's the Law. Our next show will be Monday December 10th RSS: Tagging to a new taxonomy You can check out episodes, leave comments, and find out what's going on at our blog: itselementary [dot] edublogs [dot] org. Thank you for being here. Good Night!

Alternative outline... (Save for Roundtable Discussion) Show Presentation approx 30min. Post show upto 30min. Jose: Timekeeper.
  1. Background and experience
  2. Each takes a turn sharing a story
  3. Share resources we've found
  4. Wrap up and review
  5. Round table